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[McLaren Fan]

Those of you who have read the transcript of the 13th September meeting will know about this, but I feel it deserves a wider hearing. Here is some of what Max Mosley said during the proceedings:

The point you are making is fundamental to motor sport. Someone can be 1mm over with their wing, or half a kilo over or under with their weight, and thereby be disqualified. We have exactly that principle.

He was not saying that in 1999 when Ferrari's barge boards were in excess of FOUR millimeters oversize. Bitter Mosley and the corrupt FIA never cease to sicken me.

It's time for a change of leadership in the sport. Formula One needs to be more transparent, the decision making more fair and these clowns in grey suits, smoke-filled rooms, kicked out.

[sidepodcast]

that is very interesting. and i agree with your conclusion.

we've only got as far as the first document, but our thoughts are here:

http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/09/19/t ... ts-part-1/

[racechick]

that is very interesting. and i agree with your conclusion.

we've only got as far as the first document, but our thoughts are here:

http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/09/19/t ... ts-part-1/

I agree too

[McLaren Fan]

Given that DD has been reading the forum and has failed to comment we can only assume he accepts what we're saying.

[darwin dali]

Alexander Law wrote in 1999 on atlasf1:


At the FIA Appeals hearing on Friday, Ferrari brought in massive amounts of data regarding the overall performance benefits from having such a part. The results would have been negligible, as many other team technical directors have agreed. Ferrari also showed that the parts were legal within a 5-millimetre tolerance limit set in the regulations by the FIA (part of Article 3.12.6 of the 1999 FIA F1 regulations). However, the problem was the legality of the methodology of measurement applied by the FIA stewards at the Sepang circuit, and the accuracy of the equipment.
[...]
What can the FIA learn from this? Measurement equipment must be accurate to the last millimetre. This equipment is from what all cars are built, and the construction of these "universal measures" must be scrutineered to the maximum.. Also, this equipment cannot be changed during the year, and measurements of items where more than one measurement is taken, the measurement must be taken with the same equipment. In all Science experiments, from high schools to the most complex physics problems, this is the norm or else the results cannot be accurate.

[McLaren Fan]

Alexander Law wrote in 1999 on atlasf1:

Ferrari brought in massive amounts of data regarding the overall performance benefits from having such a part. The results would have been negligible...

The amount and kind of data several McLaren employees had was virtually negligible. That was not sufficient to clear McLaren.

[McLaren Fan]

Furthermore, saying as Mosley is so adament about sport being fair, every championship for the last lot of decades will have to be declared null and void considering the information McLaren had on Ferrari was the same information other teams have on their rivals. Finally, according to Mika Salo, in 1999 Ferrari listened to McLaren radio conversations, which, according to Ferrari a few weeks ago, is illegal and has to be stopped!

[sidepodcast]

2nd document, round up:

http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/09/20/t ... ts-part-2/