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So, I can see Alonso moving to Honda. Renault being under investigation might not be the right move.
As long as he's given the #1 role and he's told that with Brawn arrival at Honda, both of them will improve the team (a la MS/Todt). He might let go of winning for couple of years if the pay is substantial.
So, I can see Alonso moving to Honda. Renault being under investigation might not be the right move.
As long as he's given the #1 role and he's told that with Brawn arrival at Honda, both of them will improve the team (a la MS/Todt). He might let go of winning for couple of years if the pay is substantial.
Well I hope Alonso doesnt go to honda. Button has stuck with them all this time he deserves the chance to show what he can do in a good car. If Alonso goes it will be on prima dona conditions and Button(or whoever is beside him) wont get a chance.
Well the 2008 car is built so we need to look for 09 to see the Brawn effect
From the BBC website:-The struggling Honda team are poised to announce a major coup by appointing former Ferrari technical director Ross Brawn as their team principal.
The 52-year-old Englishman is to be confirmed in his new role on Monday, BBC Sport has learnt, with Nick Fry continuing as chief executive.
Brawn was the technical mastermind behind Ferrari's unprecedented success in the first half of this decade.
He will be expected to turn Honda from underachievers into a major force.
It is Brawn's first role as team principal, but few inside F1 doubt he will be a success in the position - as long as Honda's management in Japan allow him free reign to run the team.
Brawn joins at the end of the worst season in Honda's modern history.
The team produced one of the most uncompetitive cars on the grid this season, with Jenson Button managing only six points and the veteran former Ferrari driver Rubens Barrichello failing to score any at all.
That was despite Button giving the team their first win of the modern era in Hungary in 2006.
Brawn joining the team will be a huge reassurance to Button, who said at the weekend he would not tolerate another season of underachievement.
"The car was a complete dog, and I'm just not interested in racing like this any more," Button said.
"I'd love to win the title with Honda but I've got to start winning, and if I don't then I have to be ruthless."
Brawn became synonymous with Schumacher's success
However, Brawn will not be able to turn the team around overnight.
Next year's Honda car has already been designed, and he will be focusing his initial efforts on reorganising the team to ensure it is competitive in 2009.
Nevertheless, it is to be expected that his impact will begin to be felt as the 2008 season progresses.
Brawn is hugely highly rated in F1, where he became synonymous with Michael Schumacher.
The two were together at Benetton in the early 1990s, winning back-to-back world titles in 1994 and 1995, before both moved to Ferrari in 1996.
Their arrival marked a dramatic upturn in the Italian team's fortunes, turning them into world beaters after years in the doldrums.
Schumacher finally ended Ferrari's 21-year run without a drivers' title in 2000, the first of five championships in a row.
Brawn took a sabbatical from F1 following Schumacher's retirement at the end of 2006, and has been in demand by Red Bull and Toyota as well as Honda.
Fry is rumoured to have been chasing Brawn since last spring, but Ferrari had first call on his services.
Brawn began talks with his former team in the summer but he was unable to agree a deal to become their team principal.
Now those negotiations have failed, he has decided to take on a challenge that will be at least the equal of that he undertook at Ferrari - and Honda will hope he is able to have a similar effect on them.
Great news for Honda and a slap in the face for Ferrari.
With the Englishman at the helm I foresee good times ahead for the Honda team. I predicted this some time back on another site and was laughed at by Ferrari fans who said that if Ross came back, he'd only want to work for one team.
Anyway, this is great news and I hope the dawn of a serious WDC push from Button and Honda.
Thanks to your post I've realised how many RB's there are in F1...Well the 2008 car is built so we need to look for 09 to see the Brawn effect
Umm... RB isn't a designer, anyway... hopefully honda will have decent wheels for RB to manage (and JB to drive...).
I'm sorry RB hasn't gone to RB... Red Bull, that is. Him and Adrian - with (maybe) Alonso - would likely make strong team in a year or two.
As it is... it's kind of natural to me that RB wanted new challenges - and not that Honda's money is necessarily minor to Ferrari's offer... Anyway, rub it into Ferrari's fans faces or not, I don't see this as Ferrari's big loss - they did well without RB this year, actually much better than previous 2 years they had both RB and MS. Even caliber like RB can do only that much without good car...
Well the 2008 car is built so we need to look for 09 to see the Brawn effect
Umm... RB isn't a designer, anyway... hopefully honda will have decent wheels for RB to manage (and JB to drive...).
I'm sorry RB hasn't gone to RB... Red Bull, that is. Him and Adrian - with (maybe) Alonso - would likely make strong team in a year or two.
As it is... it's kind of natural to me that RB wanted new challenges - and not that Honda's money is necessarily minor to Ferrari's offer... Anyway, rub it into Ferrari's fans faces or not, I don't see this as Ferrari's big loss - they did well without RB this year, actually much better than previous 2 years they had both RB and MS. Even caliber like RB can do only that much without good car...
From the BBC website:-The struggling Honda team are poised to announce a major coup by appointing former Ferrari technical director Ross Brawn as their team principal.
The 52-year-old Englishman is to be confirmed in his new role on Monday, BBC Sport has learnt, with Nick Fry continuing as chief executive.
Brawn was the technical mastermind behind Ferrari's unprecedented success in the first half of this decade.
He will be expected to turn Honda from underachievers into a major force.
It is Brawn's first role as team principal, but few inside F1 doubt he will be a success in the position - as long as Honda's management in Japan allow him free reign to run the team.
Brawn joins at the end of the worst season in Honda's modern history.
The team produced one of the most uncompetitive cars on the grid this season, with Jenson Button managing only six points and the veteran former Ferrari driver Rubens Barrichello failing to score any at all.
That was despite Button giving the team their first win of the modern era in Hungary in 2006.
Brawn joining the team will be a huge reassurance to Button, who said at the weekend he would not tolerate another season of underachievement.
"The car was a complete dog, and I'm just not interested in racing like this any more," Button said.
"I'd love to win the title with Honda but I've got to start winning, and if I don't then I have to be ruthless."
Brawn became synonymous with Schumacher's success
However, Brawn will not be able to turn the team around overnight.
Next year's Honda car has already been designed, and he will be focusing his initial efforts on reorganising the team to ensure it is competitive in 2009.
Nevertheless, it is to be expected that his impact will begin to be felt as the 2008 season progresses.
Brawn is hugely highly rated in F1, where he became synonymous with Michael Schumacher.
The two were together at Benetton in the early 1990s, winning back-to-back world titles in 1994 and 1995, before both moved to Ferrari in 1996.
Their arrival marked a dramatic upturn in the Italian team's fortunes, turning them into world beaters after years in the doldrums.
Schumacher finally ended Ferrari's 21-year run without a drivers' title in 2000, the first of five championships in a row.
Brawn took a sabbatical from F1 following Schumacher's retirement at the end of 2006, and has been in demand by Red Bull and Toyota as well as Honda.
Fry is rumoured to have been chasing Brawn since last spring, but Ferrari had first call on his services.
Brawn began talks with his former team in the summer but he was unable to agree a deal to become their team principal.
Now those negotiations have failed, he has decided to take on a challenge that will be at least the equal of that he undertook at Ferrari - and Honda will hope he is able to have a similar effect on them.
Great news for Honda and a slap in the face for Ferrari.
With the Englishman at the helm I foresee good times ahead for the Honda team. I predicted this some time back on another site and was laughed at by Ferrari fans who said that if Ross came back, he'd only want to work for one team.
Anyway, this is great news and I hope the dawn of a serious WDC push from Button and Honda.
It was printed in Autosport about 6 months ago that Brawn was looking at moving to Honda...
Well the 2008 car is built so we need to look for 09 to see the Brawn effect
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