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#88187
Fears for future of racing circuit
8:00am Saturday 17th January 2009


By Neil Macfarlane »

THE future of a North-East racing circuit that generates £3m a year for the local economy depends on an Appeal Court decision over noise levels, motorsport chiefs said last night.

Barristers for Croft Circuit, near Darlington, are trying to overturn an order to pay £150,000 to a couple and their daughter, who live next to the track.

The family complained that their quality of life had been ruined by screeching tyres and revving engines.

Race organisers say that if the decision is upheld, it could open the gates to countless compensation claims from neighbouring residents, jeopardising the long-term future of the venue.

No decision has been reached, after a hearing was held at the Court of Appeal, in London, this week.

“We do feel like we have the sword of Damocles hanging over us,” said Dennis Carter, director of Croft-Promo- Sport, which organises the British Superbike Championships and the British Touring Car Championships at Croft. The events attract up to 30,000 people.

“Our future really depends on what the court decides.

“I do not want to sound too alarmist because I would like to think we can still find a way through this.

“The people at Croft do a fantastic job for us and I would really like it to continue.

We will do everything we can to keep it going.

“It was a huge blow when the court decided we should pay damages. It is possible that there could be cuts if we have to pay this money out.

“Once we get the decision we will have to sit down and think very carefully about what to do next.”

Derek and Julia Watson and their daughter, Jill Wilson, live at Vince Moor East, Dalton- on-Tees, within about 300 metres of the circuit.

The family say their enjoyment of their homes has, for years, been gravely affected by the “loud, intrusive and repetitive noise”.

In an extremely rare decision last April, High Court judge Mr Justice Simon ruled all three had been victims of “noise nuisance” and ordered Croft-Promo-Sport to pay Mr and Mrs Watson £109,600 damages, and Mrs Wilson £40,000.

The family’s legal costs from this hearing alone were put at about £700,000.

This week, David Hart, representing the Watsons and Mrs Wilson in the Court of Appeal, said the criticism of the original ruling was wholly unjustified.

The Watsons and Mrs Wilson are cross-appealing against Mr Justice Simon’s refusal to grant them an injunction restricting noisy racing activities on the racetrack to 40 days a year.

In his ruling last year, Mr Justice Simon said they had been “deeply affected by the noise from the circuit for a number of years”.

Their objection was not to car and motorbike racing events, which take place on the track on about 50 days a year, but to vehicle testing days and track days, when members of the public drive cars around the track at high speed.

The judge awarded them damages based on the “blight” on the value of their homes caused by the noise, and for their “loss of amenity”

in their homes.

The Northern Echo contacted the Watsons yesterday but the family declined to comment.

Richard Jones, representing Croft-Promo-Sport, said the court decision would have serious implications for the future of the racetrack and had left the company exposed to huge legal costs, and open to other potential claims by an “uncertain number” of neighbouring landowners.

Larry Carter, who handles public relations for Croft Circuit, said: “If any restrictions are put on Croft it would have huge implications for the local sporting fraternity and the local economy.

“It brings thousands of people to the area every year and is the only facility south of Knockhill, in Scotland, and north of Donnington. Motor sports fans from a huge catchment area go there.

“Financially, the circuit is probably worth £3m to the local economy. People come and stay in nearby hotels, eat at local restaurants and fill up their cars at the garages.

“If racing at Croft goes, it would be a blow to everybody in the region.”

Given the difficulty and importance of the case, ruling judges at the Court of Appeal are expected to reserve their decision until later this year.

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/4 ... cuit/#show
#88189
That's not good news, Croft is the closest racing track to me and it's where I passed my ARDS test at. You'd think people would take in mind that they WILL have to put up with racetrack noise when moving into a house that's close to a racetrack.
#88190
That's not good news, Croft is the closest racing track to me and it's where I passed my ARDS test at. You'd think people would take in mind that they WILL have to put up with racetrack noise when moving into a house that's close to a racetrack.

This is the sort of thing that really pisses me off. If you move house beside a racing track, that's your problem. You should have found another house! :director:
#88300
That's not good news, Croft is the closest racing track to me and it's where I passed my ARDS test at. You'd think people would take in mind that they WILL have to put up with racetrack noise when moving into a house that's close to a racetrack.

This is the sort of thing that really pisses me off. If you move house beside a racing track, that's your problem. You should have found another house! :director:


100% agree

like if you move near an airport and complain about noisy planes then your just stupid.
#88312
How long has Croft existed for? I bet it's been there longer than those idiots have, so they must have known/had a pretty good idea of what to expect... and on that basis they surely can't sue Croft, can they?

What a ridiculous world we live in! :banghead:
#88325
Looks like they just want to get money out of it now. Whats stupid though is that they implying "home life has been affected by loud noise" well if you dont like it move the hell out dumbass!!! We get complaints about Laguna Seca too, but Laguna brings in so much money for the local economy, those complaints dont really go anywhere.
#88328
That's not good news, Croft is the closest racing track to me and it's where I passed my ARDS test at. You'd think people would take in mind that they WILL have to put up with racetrack noise when moving into a house that's close to a racetrack.

This is the sort of thing that really pisses me off. If you move house beside a racing track, that's your problem. You should have found another house! :director:


Pretty much how I see it. It irritates me that this is the exact reason that we can't have Formula One at Brands Hatch :/
#88561
I've been racing there for years and Croft is an excellent Circuit, which was set for further investment following a recent change of ownership. If it goes, it will leave a big geographical hole in the UK motorsport world and set a dangerous precedent for the UK motorsport industry - to name but one.

Racing and aeroplanes have been present at the venue since the 1920s but the first full meeting was in 1964. Croft stopped tarmac racing in 1981, but continued with Rallycross. Tarmac racing restarted in 1995 and following investment which included modifications to the circuit, it has gone from strength to strength.

These people moved there recently:-

http://www.bikesportnews.com/articles/article.html?id=BIRD_CRIES_FOUL_OVER_POTENTIAL_CROFT_DEMISE_1

so you might think they would have guessed that it could be a bit noisy...

Looks like they just want to get money out of it now. Whats stupid though is that they implying "home life has been affected by loud noise" well if you dont like it move the hell out dumbass!!! We get complaints about Laguna Seca too, but Laguna brings in so much money for the local economy, those complaints dont really go anywhere.


So following this logic (and the amount of benefit to the community was questioned in the court case) what we need is MORE racing and track time at Croft to bring more local revenue (a hotel owner I spoke to was very supportive as you might imagine), and I for one vote for that!
#88564
That's not good news, Croft is the closest racing track to me and it's where I passed my ARDS test at. You'd think people would take in mind that they WILL have to put up with racetrack noise when moving into a house that's close to a racetrack.

This is the sort of thing that really pisses me off. If you move house beside a racing track, that's your problem. You should have found another house! :director:


Pretty much how I see it. It irritates me that this is the exact reason that we can't have Formula One at Brands Hatch :/


Its completely crazy!! :banghead:
#88569
at the bottom of my garden is a railway. do I try and claim money off BR every time a train goes past. NO because I moved into the house knowing the track was there. people like this who are just after making money really pisses me off. How about we claim money off these idiots for using oxygen that could be put to better use.
#88576
So following this logic (and the amount of benefit to the community was questioned in the court case) what we need is MORE racing and track time at Croft to bring more local revenue (a hotel owner I spoke to was very supportive as you might imagine), and I for one vote for that!


Maybe bigger events would help? The CART (RIP), Moto GP, and Historics races bring in so many people, that they (like you said) stay at local hotels, eat at restaurants, and Monterey is a very touristy area, so people go check out the aquarium, or go to the wharf. Basically the races benefit everyone, except the people who live near the track, unless they're race fans.
#88588
So following this logic (and the amount of benefit to the community was questioned in the court case) what we need is MORE racing and track time at Croft to bring more local revenue (a hotel owner I spoke to was very supportive as you might imagine), and I for one vote for that!


Maybe bigger events would help? The CART (RIP), Moto GP, and Historics races bring in so many people, that they (like you said) stay at local hotels, eat at restaurants, and Monterey is a very touristy area, so people go check out the aquarium, or go to the wharf. Basically the races benefit everyone, except the people who live near the track, unless they're race fans.


Well Croft already stages the major British series at the moment. Unless it has a significant upgrade it probably can't hold any higher profiled events.
#89107
Disgraceful, I hope the idiots receive a lot of hate mail from local race fans.

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